Further along in the interview, Mbatha-Raw dished out her take of the bureaucratic leader and her ways. She discussed how the audiences have become accustomed to seeing these archetypal villains and the heroes as two-dimensional, black and white even.
However, her part in the series fit into neither. She was not the poster hero or the big bad evil villain. In retrospect, probably no character in the entire plot was, and Mbatha-Raw found that idea intriguing.
I think the complexity of these morally grey characters, that nobody's ever completely good, nobody is ever completely bad, and obviously people do bad things with the best intentions as well, that was interesting to me.